It is easily solved. Put chargers in every gas station. Wouldn’t need many. 
There’s usually several gas stations at every exit on a highway and every few 
blocks in a city


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On Sunday, June 4, 2023, 1:16 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

Right now, most of us can tolerate a poorly maintained charging 
infrastructure. Charging at home means infrequent use of level 3 
charging. Recently I was in France and, talking to my cousins and other 
people, they complain of the same thing. It may be slightly better there 
than US but it's still a large hindrance for EV acceptance.

Soon, though, if we expect urban dwellers without off street parking to 
buy EVs, we're going to have to have a more reliable system. Like my 
cousins, two of which have no off street parking, what are people to do 
if they can't easily recharge once a week at a local level 3 station ? 
We can't assume the charge-at-home model much longer.

Peri

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------ Original Message ------
From: "Tom Hudson via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
Cc: "Tom Hudson" <tdhud...@klanky.com>; "EV List Lackey" 
<evp...@drmm.net>
Sent: 04-Jun-23 09:38:25
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 127, Issue 14

>Watching a lot of YouTube EV content, non-Tesla charging infrastructure is a 
>sad joke. Kyle Connor of "Out of Spec Motors" has been reporting on CCS 
>charging, including Electrify America, and it's not a pretty picture. It's not 
>uncommon for an EA charging station with four units to have three that are 
>inoperable. For WEEKS. It's worse in winter, when their choice of hardware 
>can't cope with low temperatures. The "All Electric Family", out in Nebraska, 
>had to be towed on at least one occasion due to inoperable CCS chargers 
>(including EA). There are numerous accounts of people having to stay at a 
>hotel as a result of being unable to charge on non-Tesla hardware.I don't know 
>what people expected from EA, an entity born of the Dieselgate scandal and 
>VW's lies -- they cobbled together equipment that wasn't designed to be used 
>in vehicle charging, wasn't intended for outdoor use with wide temperature 
>variations, didn't set up adequate maintenance schedules and called it a 
>day.Ford seems t
 o
>  have effectively called it quits with CCS after CEO Jim Farley experienced 
>some of this on an EV trip with his family (and I'm sure, outcry from 
>customers who have to deal with this fiasco). They're switching to Tesla's 
>NACS solution -- so much easier to use (the charging plug is a fraction of the 
>size and slides into the port with zero effort) and vastly more reliable -- in 
>5 years of owning our Model 3, I think I've only seen TWO chargers out of 
>order in hundreds of SuperCharger visits.Ford is only the first domino to 
>fall, I think. Other manufacturers will (if they're smart) undoubtedly decide 
>to go with the solution that costs them less money and delivers better 
>customer experience.As we all know, 99% of day-to-day charging is done at home 
>and DC fast charging is primarily for road trips. But when you take a trip, 
>the charging has to be there -- enough locations and enough FUNCTIONAL 
>chargers per location -- to make it practical.If I didn't drive a Tesla, a 
>road trip would be
  a
>  miserable exercise in "Range Anxiety" -- something my wife and I actually 
>joke about on road trips, considering our first EV had less than 50 miles of 
>range (just 17% of our Model 3's range) and no fast charging.-TomSent from my 
>Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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