On 28 Oct 2023 at 23:17, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > There isn't enough copper (and so on) to electrify what uses petrol now, > not in my lifetime. The greatest suppliers we prefer not to use - Russia in > particular. There is copper in South America, but mines don't come on line > overnight, more like over a decade.
Not to lump you in with them, but this is the kind of rhetoric that the anti- EV / anti-progress crowd repeats endlessly. Not enough copper,.not enough lithium, not enough <fill in the blank>, as if those were the only materials we could possibly use to build EVs. In the early days of the ICEV, experts predicted that there we could never refine enough gasoline to fuel a world full of cars. Horses forever! Then chemists invented catalytic cracking. Near the start of WW2, the US lost its source of natural rubber for tires. The rubber industry developed synthetic rubber and we forged ahead. Science today isn't any less resourceful than it was then. IF we have the will, and IF we don't let the wailing foot- and knuckle-draggers hold us back, we'll find a way. It may not happen in the US this time. They have too many short-term "but my profit margin!" lobbying libertarian billionaires. Why invest their billions in a sustainable future when they can throw them away promoting regressive, reactionary politics and scientific retreat? I see other nations taking real action, however haltingly, toward a more sustainable future. If they keep their eyes on the road ahead instead of on the rear view mirror, they have a good chance of solving the problems, EV and otherwise, and reducing the world's carbon hit. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = The metaverse as envisioned by the tech giants is not some promising new frontier for humanity. It's just another place to spend money on things. --Keza MacDonald = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
