As a Canadian, I can tell you that buying land in Canada ain't gonna cut it. In relation to the size of our country, the bulk our currently arable land is shockingly close to the US border and is rapidly looking to teeter on the edge of viability.
Go a bit farther north and you run into something called the Canadian Shield: rock, rock, and more rock, with swamp in the lowlands, lakes in the holes, and trees hanging on for dear life where it's shocking that anything other than lichen can exist. North of that is tundra. It was once viable, arable land. Before the last ice age. As fast as we're heating the planet, that tundra will still not be useful for food production until centuries after the current farmland is useless for agriculture as we know it. The only real option is to fix what we've got before it's irrevocably broken. -- Ron On October 29, 2023 5:48:29 p.m. CST, Michael Ross via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >Just because the effort to electrify is not going to be completely >successful doesn't mean I don't want it done. Buying land in Canada might >be a reasonable response compared to trying to green up the whole world. >Going electric world wide will take perhaps 4 times the production of >copper that the earth sustains at this time. It is there, but I don't see >humans getting it together to do it. > >There are all sorts of other elementary inputs that we do not >currently produce at quantities and rates anything near what it will take >to green up enough to make a difference. It is a bad pickle but it is what >it is. > >One mitigating factor is the demographics of the world's population - it >has the population shrinking very significant amounts in the next half >century. > >On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 11:17 PM Michael Ross <michael.e.r...@gmail.com> >wrote: > >> Considering the needs to maintain the manufacturing of the past decade, >> Europe has essentially none. Germany is burning lignite, for example. >> France has nukes to hold them together. That is about it. Norway? They >> would rather not use petroleum, and make the right moves to avoid it. Norge >> can't support the rest of the continent. >> >> We have shale tech and I have read there is more than 50 years worth that >> we know about. Yeah, unlimited is hyperbolic, but there is no limit in my >> lifetime. >> >> There isn't enough copper (and so on) to electrify what uses petrol now, >> not in my lifetime. The greatest suppliers we _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
