-- Excellence does not require perfection. -- Henry James -- Lee A. Hart http://www.sunrise-ev.com -----Original Message----- From: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Oct 29, 2023 10:22 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: EV List Lackey <evp...@drmm.net> Subject: Re: [EVDL] 'Facts' about EV's debunked
Michael Ross wrote: > There isn't enough copper (and so on) to electrify what uses petrol now, > not in my lifetime. The greatest suppliers we prefer not to use - Russia in > particular. There is copper in South America, but mines don't come on line > overnight, more like over a decade. David Roden wrote: > Not to lump you in with them, but this is the kind of rhetoric that the anti- > EV / anti-progress crowd repeats endlessly. Not enough copper,.not enough > lithium, not enough , as if those were the only materials we could possibly > use to build EVs. The problem is not nature or physics; but rather human nature. People are good at dealing with an immediate crisis right in front of them; but terrible at the long-term planning needed to avoid the crisis in the first place. Copper, lithium, and all the other raw materials are finite resources. But they are not consumed; they can be endlessly recycled. We just choose not to do it for economic reasons (money!) Coal, oil, and gas are non-renewable resources, but we *BURN* them (because it's cheap and easy). No chance of recycling there! The consequences of the burning are slow, so people don't (or won't) recognize them. > Science today isn't any less resourceful than it was then. IF we have the > will, and IF we don't let the wailing foot- and knuckle-draggers hold us > back, we'll find a way. For our children's sake, let us hope so! What's that old saying? "Ve gets too soon old, und too late schmardt." Lee _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/