On Feb 1, 12:41 am, David Shipman <zzship...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 30, 4:13 pm, 1Z <peterdjo...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 25, 9:04 am, "Stephen Paul King" <stephe...@charter.net> wrote: > > > > Dear Bruno and Friends, > > >> While we are considering the idea of “causal efficacy” > >> here and not hidden variable theories, the fact that it > >> has been experimentally verified that Nature violates > >> the principle Locality. Therefore the assumption of > >> local efficacy that Mauldin is using for the supervenience > >> thesis is not realistic and thus presents a flaw in his > >> argument. > > > Local supervenience doesn't have to be argued from > > fundamental physics. It can be argued from neurology. > > > Mental states arent affected by what goes on outside > > the head unless information is conveyed by the sense > > This isn't true, is it? > > So we have two particles (A and B) that are entangled. > > Entanglement is never destroyed, it is only obscured by subsequent > interactions with the environment. > > Particle A goes zooming off into outer space. > > 10 years later, Particle B becomes incorporated into my brain. > > The next day, an alien scientist measures the entangled property on > Particle A. > > This will have an immediate non-local effect on Particle B won't it?
Particle B was "observed" (einselected) by your brain first, so the "action" is on particle A > And since B's state has been altered, and it is part of my brain, then > my brain state has been altered as well, hasn't it? > > Maybe only a tiny amount, obscured by the many environmental > interactions that the two particles have been subjected to since the > initial entanglement, but in a way that is real and at least > conceivably significant. > > And if that is true, then to the extent that mental states supervene > on brain states, my mental state would also have been altered by non- > local effects. > > Or is that wrong? > > Regards, > > David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
