Stathis, semantics is a fundamental principle as long as we 'talk in wordly terms'. Did you get a letter from God Almighty confirming that there is nothing more FOR DECISIONMAKING than your brain and your environment? Sorry to denigrate a term within your profession, but we know close to nothing about mentality, thinking in topical terms, even THAT DARN 'decisionmaking'. It may not be strictly deterministic, we MAY have SOME choice (all these words from the 'pseudo' domain) but how impressive those (so far unknowable) domains(?) or factors do influence "our brain(?)" has not been known as of yesterday.
(I am still hung up on your use of the number of people you are: *"...if my actions are determined by my brain and my environment..."* who is the 'you' discussing with 'your brain'? Are you compatible with you? but that is an old hat). JM On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com>wrote: > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:06 AM, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Stathis: > > in my simplicity: "free is free" and "pseudo" means "not really". So: > > pseudo-free will is not free (will), only something similar. > Restricted by > > circumstances. Or so. > > I allow into my 'deterministically' constrained free will(!) a free > > choice from available variants. I know nothing about how to apply it: how > > the unknowable (hidden? not yet disclosed?) factors incluence my > decision, > > so I say "I have a choice. Same way the less agnostics say: free will. > > Please correct me if you know more. > > Thanx > > John M > > I think it's a matter of semantics. I could say I still have a choice > even if my actions are determined by my brain and my environment. If > my brain and/or my environment had been different, I could have chosen > differently. That is compatibilism. The incompatibilists would say > that I don't have a choice if my actions are thus determined. But the > incompatibilists still live their life making decisions like everyone > else. > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
