On 6/18/2012 9:50 AM, 1Z wrote:

On Jun 17, 7:28 pm, meekerdb<meeke...@verizon.net>  wrote:

No, not that I know to be such; but believers in contra causal free will think 
that at
least some of their actions are.
Does anyone describe themselves as a believer in Contra Causal Free
Will?  People do
describe themselves as incompatibilist libertarians, and all they need
to believe
is that some of their actions are not entirely determined, and that
whatever random
element was involved was not fatal to their rationality, and their
ownership
of the action.

I don't see that as contrary to compatibilism which holds that 'free will' is compatible with determinism (but not that determinism is necessarily true). Of course an otherwise deterministic intelligence may make a random choice as part of a rational strategy. Does libertarian free will *require* that some actions be random?

Brent

A tertium datur is not needed. People who rush to the
conclusion
that it is, have generally rushed through the arguments about
randomness being
the Mind-Killer.


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