The thread is about the possibility of an omnipotent being being able to manipulate what is true.
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy < multiplecit...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Everythinglisters, > > First post here, and seems fun to get lost reading the discussions from > time to time, so here somebody contributing with a more musical tendency. > > It's funny how this game keeps cropping up where people want to do stuff > like: 1 + 1 = 11 > > If people are sincere about pulling whatever sums they feel like with > personal justification, then we might as well say 1 + 1 = 0, with a kind of > zen logic, where everything = nothing as a fancy justification. And anybody > still willing to assert this could post their bank account details and pin > numbers and be freed from arithmetic dictatorship by having their account > cleaned out by other everything listers that DO believe in sums, successors > etc. as 0 = whatever they want, and the sum of their balance doesn't really > matter, as it's only some personal belief shared by a few control freaks. > > Guitar and composition imho, have arithmetic overlap, albeit in a less > than total sense, which is why I won't have to post my details here :) > > Looking forward to contributing from time to time. > > > > > On Saturday, June 30, 2012 12:09:53 AM UTC+2, JohnM wrote: >> >> Bruno asked: >> ..... Is that an absolute truth? >> >> By no means. It is a word-flower, a semantic hint, something in MY >> agnosticism and I feel like a semantic messenger only. I accept better >> expressions. >> (Except for "absolute truth" - ha ha). >> And Teilhard was a great master of words. >> John M >> >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>wrote: >> >>> >>> On 29 Jun 2012, at 16:21, John Mikes wrote: >>> >>> Brent, thanks for the appreciation! >>> >>> My point was simply that anybody's 'truth' is conditioned. >>> We have no (approvable?) authority for an ABSOLUTE truth. Whatever "WE" >>> accept is "human". >>> >>> >>> >>> Is that an absolute truth? >>> >>> In my humble opinion, "WE = human" seems to me quite relative. When I >>> listen to the jumping spiders or the Löbian machines, most seems to >>> disagree. >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> *We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are >>> spiritual beings having a human experience.* >>> (de Chardin). >>> >>> >>> What is Mother Nature accepting? >>> >>> John M >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:09 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/28/2012 12:46 PM, John Mikes wrote: >>>> >>>>> Brent: >>>>> I am the 3rd kind of the two: think not in binary, just in plain >>>>> peasant logic, when 1 and 1 make 11, nothing more. >>>>> So Bruno's "absolute truth" may have even more relatives. >>>>> John >>>>> >>>> >>>> Or less facetiously, (The father of Kirsten)+(The father of >>>> Gennifer)=(One, me) and (one raindrop)+(one raindrop)=(one raindrop). 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