On 23 Aug 2012, at 22:36, John Clark wrote:

I don't know either, nobody knows, even the computer doesn't know if it will stop until it finds itself stopping;

If a computer stops, it will never know that. If it executes a stopping program, then it can.

To stop has no first person meaning. Nobody will ever write in its personal diary that he just died, unless metaphorically, or approximately perhaps, like with NDE, or some dreams.

Bruno


http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/



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