Hi Alberto G. Corona Thge atheist's god is himself.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/11/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Alberto G. Corona Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-10, 15:17:21 Subject: Re: victims of faith that is not fair. 99.99 believed in God or in gods They differ in the details. Atheists are a minority. In a deeper sense, atheists do believe in gods. problably modern atheism is one the most basic, new and thus, primitive religions, as I will show here: Seeing the development of religion where religion is repressed, unrepressed atheism develops into personality cult, which is probably the most basic religion. personality cult fanatics typically belive without any doubt that his leader, for example Stalin or Kim I Sung can write hundred of books per year about any scientific matter In industrialized countries this form of primitive religion appears in the rock star cult (bands of cult) in the ideologies, the political leadership cult, the cult to famous atheistic scientists or their precursors. There are articles about the false mitifications, not by lay people but by scientist about the life of Darwin for example that moves to laugh http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/feb/09/darwin.myths To summarize, religion is part of human nature. it involves the mitification or idealization of people that act as super-egos (in the psychoanalitical sense) or as models of behaviour for the believer. This is part of any healty socialization. The process of sentimental attachment of a comunity ever involves the asumption of some myths. For sure a nation is a form of primitive religion where the life of the founders and their mytical history are part of the beliefs. such religion is mixed in a "politeistic" way with other attachment to football teams or rock groups that act as minor divinities, and usually there is a superior level of civilizational religion, above the nation, where the person identifies itself with a broader comunity, such is ecologism, christianism, socialism where Al Gore, Christ or Marx act as divinities. The fact that these myths are based on real, historical people or in too long dead people with no guaranteed historicity does not matter. The only difference is that new religions have new myths and due to the fact that they have no history, they conform to the most pure form of religion, where the psychological process of mythopoiesis is observable in action today. If the mytification goes from generation to generation (if the faith is sucessful) then the mytified historical figures become pure myths so they become gods. The most pure form of belief is the one where the believer does not know that he believe. The knowledge of belief is a sophisticated or civlized way of belief, that only exist where civilizatons are mixed. We all believe things that are idealizations, falsifications or mytifications. But not all myths are equal and not all myths have to be false. There is a social capital involved in every belief: A myth explains the reality in some way, but also is inherently good if it make people act in common for common goals that are good for all. This is independent from the objective truth. By intuition men can gasp how good a myth is for him and for his fellows (that may be explained by a "social capital instinct", from which the mythopoiesis, the production of myths feed from). Good and Truthful become synonyms in the mind of the man that seek a menaning, a reason to live with others. And the man that don? seek meaning, either is in crisis or someone else has chosen his myhths to believe for him time ago. 2012/9/10 Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com>: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> So you have a very strong belief: That almost all but a few >> enlightened people like you in the History of humanity are a bunch of >> silly idiots. > > Actually, almost everyone in the history of humanity has thought that > 99.99% of all religions are silly, and that they were fortuitously > born into the 0.01% that wasn't. Atheists take it a bit further and > think that 100% of all religions are silly. Agnostics, if they are > consistent, say that it is possible that the archangel gabriel > dictated the Quran to Muhammad just as it is possible that Santa Claus > and his helpers construct toys for the world's children at the North > Pole. > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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