Hi Stephen P. King 

And then there is Leibniz's identity of indiscernibles, identity
there meaning that you only need one of them, throw the rest away.


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/15/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him 
so that everything could function."
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Subject: Re: Simple proof that our intelligence transcends that of computers


On 9/14/2012 11:53 AM, John Clark wrote:




On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net> wrote:


> Godel numberings are not unique.

True, there are a infinite number of ways you could do Godel numbering. 


  Hi John,

    Yes, but my point here is that this is the same thing as having an infinite 
number of names for one and the same thing. This makes it impossible to be 
absolutely sure of what "John Clark" or "Stephen P. King" is.




> Thus there is no a single abslute structure of relations, there is an infinity

And you can use any one of those Godel numbering schemes to show that there is 
not a single one of those infinite number of structural relationships that are 
powerful enough to do arithmetic and be consistent and complete. The hope is 
that the scheme mathematicians are using is consistent but incomplete, if it's 
inconsistent that would be a disaster.  


    Mathematicians get around this problem by defining a unique naming scheme. 
My point is that this cannot be done at a meta-theoretical level when we have 
to include a multiplicity of names for the same of multiple entities that are 
evaluating models of the mathematical scheme.



 John K Clark




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