On Friday, December 14, 2012 8:12:24 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Craig Weinberg > <whats...@gmail.com<javascript:>> > wrote: > > >> You have just presented an argument for why consciousness is a > necessary > >> side-effect of intelligent behaviour. If it were not so, then there > would > >> have been no reason for consciousness to have evolved. > > > > > > Consciousness evolved from awareness, not intelligence. Awareness did > not > > evolve. Evolution is a feature of experience, which is the consequence > of > > awareness. Intelligent behavior is more or less meaningless. It's a > > outsider's judgment on some observed activity where he projects his own > > standards of sense and motive onto some context he may or may not know > > something about. Intelligence is prejudice really. > > So that there can be no confusion, what I mean by "intelligent > behaviour" is behaviour such as looking for food or avoiding > predators.
So amoebas then. Or T-cells. > I take "consciousness" and "awareness" as synonymous. You can, but I separate them to make the more important distinction. Consciousness is multiple sets of awareness, by my meaning. When > an animal looks for food I assume that it is aware. The question is, > why did animals not evolve to do this without awareness, since it > would have the same effect of propagating their genes either way? An > answer is that awareness necessarily occurs when the type of behaviour > that would lead us to suspect awareness occurs. > So ribosomes then? Chlorophyll? They appear aware to me. Atoms, electrons.. They respond to collisions, they organize when they have the opportunity. I suspect awareness in every type of behavior. Craig > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/M4R-nAMLlZoJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.