On 31 Jan 2013, at 11:05, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Kim Jones
<kimjo...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
I'm getting a bit jack of this term "metadiscussion" becuse it only
ever gets applied to what other people are choosing to discuss.
People talk about what people want to talk about. It's about taste,
perception, preference and prejudice. Even WITH rigidly adhered-to
rules and conventions, this still applies. The challenge is to take
WHATEVER is spoken about and MAKE that relevant somehow (to
whatever you want to make it relevant to). That's harder, more
interesting and dare I say it - more relevant a process than simply
corralling all thinking under one topic or heading. As soon as you
start to set up rules, conventions and expectations the population
divides into those who feel that it is to their advantage to play
by the "rules" and those who believe that this is a constraint.
This list is remarkably troll-free. For that very reason I see no
need to restrict what is spoken of. The ensemble theories of
everything probably won't come from the brains of those who are
exclusively obsessed by these things anyway since by now their
perception is circular and their belief supports their belief. You
need random thinkers, people who will break the local equilibrium
and who will introduce the creative concept of "idea movement" from
time to time.
I like the idea of a moderator-free list, but nonetheless I agree with
Russell. The list was set up with a particular purpose in mind but in
the last few months the range of discussion topics has changed
radically. The Internet is large and there are plenty of other forums
in which to discuss politics and religion. Could we return to the old
list please?
I agree. Religion might be discussed but only if it put a specific
light on the "ensemble" or "everything" type of TOE research, not on
actual problems like gun control which can be debated on better suited
forum.
May be people could also try to make less posts, more acute on their
points, to help the mailing boxes to not explode!
Bruno
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