On 29 May 2013, at 02:29, Jason Resch wrote:
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>
wrote:
On 27 May 2013, at 23:18, John Mikes wrote:
Bruno:
do you indeed exclude the "other" animals from being selfconcious?
?
No, not at all. My current feeling (for what is worth) is that
consciousness begins with the bacteria, plants and all animals.
And self-consciousness arise already with the invertebrates, like
the cuttle fish, the octopus, some spiders. Of course those animals
don't actually exploits the Löbianity (the self-consciousness level)
a lot.
Indeed, when seen under time lapse these climbing vines seem quite
conscious:
http://videos.howstuffworks.com/discovery/40622-life-creeper-plants-climb-trees-video.htm
Yes. here is a plant know as aggressive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNjR4rVA8to
Time lapse helps to attribute some sensibility to plants, but case of
complex dialog between trees has been made, for some forest, with
complex chemical processing shared by many trees, through they roots,
and with the help of bacteria.
Bruno
Jason
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