On 08 Sep 2013, at 11:14, Alberto G. Corona wrote:

with physicalism i mean a form of reductionism that is ideológical instead of metodological, in the sense that despise anything beyond the laws of physics. Physicalists despise chemistry and biology not to mention other disciplines.

Indeed. And that can explain why it is hard for them to even imagine that physics can itself be reduced to another science (like arithmetic/ computer science when assuming computationalism).




An scientist can use reductionism in a metodological way, for example, we can use quantum nechanics to better understand some chemical reactions. or we can use brain scanning or cognitive sciences to help in the study of the mind. What is ideológical is to deny or despise anything above your favorite discipline.

In this case, it is related to a (not always conscious) dogma, coming from Aristotle metaphysics, and fitting with the natural animal speculation/extrapolation of unicity and existence of itself and its neighborhood. Assuming comp we get the many selves and the many corresponding worlds/realities. The "I" hides other I's.

Bruno






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On 9/7/2013 12:40 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
That's right. I´m not joking if i say that the thing that discredited philosophers definitively was relativity, quantum mechanics and their realization: the atomic bomb. That is the event that raised physicalism, a branch of logical positivism and analytical philosophy, and discredited any other way of thinking.

If by "physicalism" you mean the meta- of physics, then it's not positivism. Positivism hasn't been considered a good meta-physics since Mach. Too many unobservable things: atoms, photons, quarks, virtual particles,... turned out to make good empirical models.

Brent

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