On 26 Oct 2013, at 23:53, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/26/2013 1:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
You betray your feeling here. Some people, like you apparently,
indeed find the FPI and the reversal as a "work of genius". They
think: "if you were right you should have the Nobel Prize, but you
don't, so something must be wrong, and so I don't need to study
it". But of course this does not help as it makes people dismissing
it indeed.
It seems to me that there is no disagreement about any fact in the
duplication experiment - only arguments about what "uncertainty"
John understood what I meant. He compared it himself with coin
throwing. He miss the originality and/or importance, but that is not
used in the reasoning.
and "you" mean.
John has proposed itself a definition, which is indeed the definition
needed to say that we survive drinking, coffee, getting an artificial
brain, using teletransportation, or living a self-duplication.
He just stops doing the thought experiment just at the moment we
interview each copies to see if the prediction written in the diary in
Helsinki is or not fulfilled.
So why don't you explain to John what proceeds from the facts of the
thought experiment?
I think he knows it. Comp implies (at step seven) that if there is a
UD running in the universe, then physics is reduced to the FPI on
arithmetic. Step 8 eliminates the assumption that there is a universe.
I am the one, like many, who does not understand John's point, so I
think you should ask him to clarify his point. It seems originate from
not taking the 1P/3P distinction into account, despite he showed to
understand it in some post.
Bruno
Brent
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