On 06 Dec 2013, at 11:10, LizR wrote:

On 6 December 2013 21:52, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:

On 05 Dec 2013, at 20:05, Jason Resch wrote:




On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:

On 05 Dec 2013, at 17:20, Jason Resch wrote:

So if you were to spend a day in the box with Schrodinger's cat (each hour having a 50% chance of poisoning you), what would you predict experience to be at the end of that day?


I like to answer this by this: At the end of the day I feel well and kiss the cat, together with a total amnesia of having gazed, which begin by a nausea, vomiting, cruel pain and agonizing death. I would put quantum flowers on 'his' quantum tomb to have died for me. Respect for the little kitty too.

I don't see this. Surely you are far more likely to have experienced the nausea and pain, and to have nevertheless survived somehow - by a very unlikely chance - than to have lucked out and not been gassed at all?

In the traditional experience, the trigger of the gas capsule is in the state 1/sqrt(2)(will trigger + will not trigger), so you have 1/2 to not be poisoned and 1/2 to be poisoned. the one not poisoned remember nothing of the experience of the one poisoned.




This is the problem with QTI - it seems to me almost inevitable that one will only survive in a very unfortunate state, at least for a long time.

In the end, it looks like that, but computer science suggest jumps, like sort of 1p-phase transition in decaying universal machine. But it is technically still rather complex. Drugs experience, and sleep, illustrates that few simple 3p change can alter consciousness drastically. Concentrating on the "unfortunate state" can lead to bad trips and an unfortunate state. Some 1p states are more defined by what you expect than by what you got. (that part of why the logic of Bp & Dp differ from Bp).

Bruno





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