2013/12/6 Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com>

> Science comes from latin and means knowledge... if some wants to use
> science as a cover for something else, that doesn't redefine what it is...
> science is an attitude towards pursuit of knowledge...
>
>  Thank you. The victims of sectarianism in the name of science thank you
for the clarification. They beg you pardon for complaining about mere
hypothesis, not dogmas such are eugenesia, cultural determinism, genetic
determinism etc . So they, the victims can not claim to be killed by a
dogma, but by an hypothesis, which is, by no means, the same kind of
massacre.

 Some others beg you pardon for advancing the hypothesis of God as more
plausible than the materialist hypothesis. No doubt that is not an
hypothesis, but a dogma made by morons that must be even more isolated from
society and relegated to the condition of second class citizens, and their
kinds re-educated in secularist-homologated education camps. All that
justified in mere hypothesis of science that can be discussed (if they dare
to do) , of course.

Please let me put your argument togeter with other equaly admitted
clarifying arguments:

Socialism is the heaven in earth whatever that is not the heaven in heart,
for example 100 M deaths, is not the heaven in heart, therefore socialism
is heaven in earth.

Islam is Peace, therefore wathever done in the name of Allá is not Islam
because Islam is peace.



> Quentin
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> 2013/12/6 Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com>
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>> 2013/12/6 Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com>
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>>> Science has no dogma, because everything can be discussed and
>>> questionned...
>>>
>>
>> So science is the art of discussing and questioning everything?
>>
>>  That is like saying nothing.
>>
>> In the other side, one thing is the activity of science, other the
>> different schools of science, other the different sciences and other the
>> science believer, another the commited positivist, the public institution
>> payed relativist that gives advice to politicians etc. Are you telling me
>> that there are no dogmas in all these fauna?
>>
>>
>>> On the contrary, religions *must* have some part that can't be
>>> discussed, you can't say you're catholic if you don't believe jesus was the
>>> son of god... you can't say you're buddhist and reject what the buddha said.
>>>
>>> So no, science has no dogma and is not based on dogma but on hypothesis.
>>>
>>> Quentin
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/12/6 Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> The dogma that "science" (in the very narrow sense used today for such
>>>> world)  is not dogma is the foundation stone of one of the most sucessful
>>>> modern religions: scientism.
>>>>
>>>> That is wonderful since there is no knowledge possible without initial
>>>> postulates or "dogmas" as you may call it. This erasure of dogmas of
>>>> "science" is the most sucessful campaing of disinformation ever. Simply by
>>>> discrediting and  prohibiting metaphysics and pulling philosophy out of the
>>>> sciences.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/12/5 Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> A religion is based on dogma, science is not, hence science is not a
>>>>> religion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/12/5 Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe in science.
>>>>>> That is my religion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:35 PM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Alberto G. Corona <
>>>>>>> agocor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > you can not live without a form of religion
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Speak for yourself,  I've been living without religion since i was
>>>>>>> 12.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   John K Clark
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