On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 5:19 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

>  On 12/30/2013 2:08 PM, LizR wrote:
>
>  On 31 December 2013 10:33, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>   But then the explanation for *this* is that it's just a random one we
>> happen to exist in.  I don't see that as any better than saying that
>> somethings happen at random and they led to here.
>>
>>  Yeah, it's the WAP.
>
>  Seems quite reasonable to me.
>
>  It's superior to the random one because that makes more assumptions
> about the nature of reality.
>
>
> How so?  They seem of similar magnitude to me.  Remember I'm asking for an
> explanation of *this*.  Not just an explanation of why there is *some
> world* with people.
>

Because observers do something, they Observe. That is an action. Don't
separate observers from their observations. Simple rule linking observers
to observations. X can only experience worlds (collections of observations)
whose existence is consistent with the observer's existence.

Let me drill down a bit more into this.

  We can take for granted that when we observe some X, we are also
observing ourselves in the act of observing X. It is a Lob theorem kinda
thing. Prof. Standish was right about ants! There is no consciousness
without self-awareness! Also, disallowing ghost prohibits the possibility
of observing a world "from the outside".

Is this helping?



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