On 14 Feb 2014, at 20:43, John Clark wrote:




On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> both the W *and* the M guy are the H guy

Yes.

> the question bear on probability of expectation for the H guy when he press the button...

If that is the question then the answer will be of zero help in understanding the nature of personal identity


But as Quentin just said, that is not the object of the inquiry.




because neither probability nor expectations have anything to do with consciousness or of a continuous feeling of self.

OK, but expectations is the object of the inquiry.


Bruno




You feel like Quentin Anciaux today for one reason only, because you remember being Quentin Anciaux yesterday; it's true that if Everett was correct then there are other things that remember that too, but how something feels or what they do can have no effect on you because neither you nor I will ever interact with them nor they with us. And for that reason pronouns like "I" and "you" and "them" and "us" cause Everett no trouble, but in Bruno's thought experiment they produce endless problems.

Everett wanted to explain why the predictions made by Quantum Mechanics were so weird and so accurate, and he wanted to explain it without introducing the very nebulous concept of "the observer", and I think he was pretty successful in accomplishing his goal. Bruno wanted to do something different, he wanted to explain how personal identity and a continuous feeling of self worked, and in that he failed.

> please state where you disagree.

Please? You're saying "please" now? What happened, did you lose you're copy of The Giant Book Of Insults?

  John K Clark


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