On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:47 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> I can say today that I am the guy having answered your post of last week. > But if duplicating chambers exist then there are lots of people who could say exactly the same thing, so more specificity is needed. > >> and neither is experiencing Helsinki right now, therefore Mr. he sees >> neither Washington nor Moscow. >> > > > So, this is my first post to you, > Bruno Marchal has certainly sent other posts to John Clark, but if duplicating chambers exist it's not at all clear who Mr. my is. > > despite I remember having sent other post? > The question is ambiguous because lots and lots of people in addition to Mr. I remember the exact same thing. > > If Mr he sees neither W or M, then he died, > If Bruno Marchal wants to invent a new language and that's what the words "death" and "he" are decreed to mean then fine, but to be consistent John Clark and Bruno Marchal of yesterday would have to be dead too. And it should be noted that invented languages make communication with others difficult, just look at Esperanto, and John Clark thinks that deep philosophical discussions are difficult enough as they are even if conducted in a mutually agreed upon language, so more obstacles to understanding are not needed. > > and then comp is false. > That's fine, I don't give a hoot in hell if the incoherent grab bag of ideas you call "comp" is false or not. The word is your invention not mine and you're the only one who seems to know exactly what it means. > > We also died each time we measure a spin, or anything. > Then the word "died" doesn't mean much. > > In AUDA this is a confusion > You have forgotten IHA. > > between []p and []p & <>t. > How in the world could anybody be confused between []p and []p & <>t especially if they had a nice low mileage AUDA convertible to help them get around town? > > you believe we have refuted comp. That would be a gigantic discovery > Not to me it wouldn't! I don't care if "comp" is true or false because I don't believe "comp" is worth a bucket of warm spit. > > Pronouns does not introduce any problem, > Personal pronouns like all pronouns are just a sort of shorthand that were invented to save time and for no other reason, they generally cause no trouble as long as the referent is clear. And yet it is a fact that Bruno Marchal is simply incapable of expressing ideas about the unique nature of personal identity without using personal pronouns. Why? Could it be because by using them and the assumption of uniqueness of identity they engender it makes it much easier to prove the uniqueness of identity? After all it is well known that proofs become somewhat easier to write if Bruno Marchal just assumes what Bruno Marchal is trying to prove. And if ideas are unclear the language should be too; a bad idea clearly expressed is easy to identify as bad, but a bad idea expressed in murky language can sometimes sound impressive if it's murky enough. > > when you agree that after the duplication we are both copies in the 3p > view > Yes. And you once said something abut "the future 1p" of the Helsinki man, well that description would fit 2 people because both remember being the Helsinki man. > > and only one of them, in the 1p view. > Only one? So which one is the phony, the Washington Man or the Moscow Man? > > I am happy you think it is a world class discovery, but let us be > modest, it is a reminder that the mind-body problem is not solved, and that > "science" has not decided between Aristotle and Plato. The discovery (the > thesis) is in the math part > I too have discovered a new sort of indeterminacy that involves math and it is very very similar to the sort you discovered; I add 2 to the number 3 and I add 8 to the number 3. The number 3 can't predict if it will end up as a 5 or as a 11. I believe my discovery is just as profound as yours. Not very. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
