On Monday, March 10, 2014 1:49:01 PM UTC, chris peck wrote: > > >> you are saying that something musically significant happened here > > Something significant happened to pop music for sure. > > In 1977 the charts were dominated by David Soul, Rod Stewart, Brotherhood > of Man, Leo Sayer, Hot Chocolate, Boney M, Shawaddywaddy and Billy Ocean. > Daddy Cool. Rockin' All Over the World and Yes Sir, I can Boogie. > > And then: > > Dragged on a table in factory > Illegitimate place to be > In a packet in a lavatory > Die little baby screaming > Body screaming fucking bloody mess > Not an animal > It's an abortion > > Body! I'm not animal > Mummy! I'm not an abortion > > > It kind of hits you in the face with the reality as experienced by the > dispossessed and disenfranchised, but in a very immediate and visceral way. > Its far more gut wrenching and confrontational than iggy pop, or the clash > or any other punk band I know of. Most people are so offended someone is > singing about abortion that they miss the fact that the song is an argument > between the unborn child and the mother. For a spotty teenager that's > pretty brainy lyrically and very surreal. > > I don't think it was ever matched until the Pixies really. > > I stand by the Pistols. True, Rotten is a twat now. He wasn't then though. > > I think they were shit, but then it was all just a little before my time. I ran away from care homes about 1980 to fine my estranged mum shacked up with the ex Crass guitarist Steve Herman in some shitty squat<http://www.coventgardenmemories.org.uk/page_id__124_path__.aspx> called trentishoe mansions. From there I moved out to live with the punks and skins of the west end 1980 generation. Better than a care home hee hee. It were great funny actually. But...all the biggest idiots always had sex pistols tattoos and sid vicious jackets. The music they made was rubbish. An d tends to be remembered as punk. Which even I buy into, hence surprise at that clash sound up the top of the thread. All the others liz mentioned were much better, though I couldn't have named them myself. Much more a case of, I lived it but I couldn't paint it.
> > > > From: kimj...@ozemail.com.au <javascript:> > > Subject: Re: The way the future was > > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 21:03:43 +1100 > > To: everyth...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10 Mar 2014, at 4:30 am, ghi...@gmail.com <javascript:> wrote: > > > > > > Although I have very little good to say about Malcolm McLaren he did > arguably launch a whole new musical experience with the Sex Pistols, a type > of music which had until then only been underground (Rezillos? B52s ?) but > bubbled to the surface when Rotten et al appeared on prime time TV swearing > away. The world was never the same. > > > > I lived through it and was even more the same after it. With all due > respect, you are saying that something musically significant happened here > but I only ever heard "racket and rubbish" from Johnny Rotten. I mean, he > called himself rotten for a reason. He was. He was musically as rotten as > festering shit. What was musically significant about the Sex Pistols? I > mean, concerning the actual elements of music. Things like pitch, rhythm, > harmony, melody - all that core stuff. His music shows no skill whatsoever > at those things. But then he didn't even write his own music because he was > too off his dial most of the time. None of this precludes the distinct > possibility that you, as I myself still do, find vastly entertaining, > listening to the Sex Pistols very occasionally. I often do listen to music > I really hate if only to realise why in ever more glory that I love the > music I really do love... > > > > Feel free to hate this post creatively in some way. McClaren would have. > > > > Kim > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > > To post to this group, send email to > > everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > . > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.