On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:20:19 AM UTC-4, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Craig, > > Depends on what you mean by 'self-awareness'. Do you mean awareness that > you are a separate 'thing' in the world with special attributes? Or do you > mean the self monitoring awareness of your actual functions as you perform > them? > > These are two very different meanings of self-awareness. >
Difference meanings, but the common component is the basic capacity to detect that what is doing the detecting is part of what is being detected, and that there is an appreciation of intrinsic significance in that awareness. Craig > > Edgar > > > > On Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:17:47 AM UTC-4, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:00:48 PM UTC-4, Edgar L. Owen wrote: >>> >>> Craig, >>> >>> Hmmm, let me see. If I just take my eye out of its socket and turn it >>> around then I guess by your theory I'd have self awareness? >>> >> >> It's not my theory, but does computationalism provide a reason why your >> eye looking in the mirror doesn't have self-awareness? >> >> >>> >>> Edgar >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, March 15, 2014 6:09:27 PM UTC-4, Craig Weinberg wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://31.media.tumblr.com/935c9f6ad77f94164442956d8929da19/tumblr_mncj8t2OCc1qz63ydo10_250.gif> >>>> http://www.jesseengland.net/index.php?/project/vide-uhhh/ >>>> >>>> Have a look at this quick video (or get the idea from this_) >>>> >>>> Since the VCR can get video feedback of itself, is there any >>>> computational reason why this doesn't count as a degree of self awareness? >>>> Would VCRs which have 'seen themselves' in this way have a greater chance >>>> of developing that awareness than those which have not? If not, what >>>> initial conditions would be necessary for such an awareness to develop in >>>> some machines and how would those initial conditions appear? >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
