On Monday, March 31, 2014 6:41:55 AM UTC+1, Liz R wrote:
>
> I'm not sure collapse is an observed fact. Collapse is an assumption which 
> explains how we come to measure discrete values.
>
 
Would mind helping me place your meaning in terms of mine Liz?
,  
Say, if we imagine a process of stripping back the meaning of 
'wave-function' based on the single goal only, of finding the common ground 
starting point, least open to  different - likely mis-conception, very 
likely my side. 
 
On that basis, my stripped back wave-function is the pattern made on the  
in the two slit experiment, by all those particles coming through, where 
each one hits. Purely on that temporary definition alone, would we be on 
common ground (a) so far as it goes - given the goal -  it's a legitimate 
definition (b) the wave function is an observed fact, and so is its 
collapse? . 
 
Else, if the only facts I'm managing to reveal is the embarrassing kind 
like the sorry ass paucity of my basic grasp of things, hey....don't be 
embarrassed :O) Give it to me straight

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