Defending ourselves from the guys, today, is way different from 800 years ago. They were significantly, more tolerant then Christendom was during the same period and for centuries afterwards. More tolerant, does not mean they were tolerant, but they tended to be less murderous, then! From the end of the Crusades, onward, they became less and less tolerant, more abusive, and more aggressive. The First Crusade in its calumny against Constantinople (Eastern Christians) and European Jews, is well known. It's a matter of comparison, then. Today, we face a sort of fascism culture that is part Sharia, part, part..? It's rage ebbs and flows, and is reactive. They are funded by oil money and the hunger to achieve a place in Paradise. This, justifies dying in combat against the QuFar (Infidels). You win a ticket to upstairs by sacrificing ones self, by becoming a shaheed, a martyr. Human beings are complicated and are driven by hope, fear, and aggression. I am the same way, before my second coffee.
Excusing me, but the Crusades were a nick of time defensive response to a massive ongoing Islamic aggression. They had got as far as Spain by the time the ever dosy Europeans got their act together and realized this was now a choice between fighting for survival or succumbing. You say it like it was the other way around. A very popular myth in the Muslim world of today....maybe once it was prouder than that, I don't know. But accountability at the cultural level is not an Islamic strong suite in our time. Look at our guest right here. Bizarre that he pretends everything is ok. It isn't....Everywhere Muslims have settled in Europe is an unfolding disaster. There's no respect or regard for being in another peoples beloved lands and culture. -----Original Message----- From: ghibbsa <ghib...@gmail.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, May 4, 2014 1:15 am Subject: Re: Evolution from Scripture On Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:14:59 AM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: I shan't defend the behaviors of the Abe religions over the centuries, but you couldn't term the Hindu faith as pacifist either. In the 20th century the political movement that had atheism at its core, was the Marxist ideology, and how many tens of millions did it destroy, 70 mil, 100? Not a bad catchup I'd say. The "pagan" faiths, previous to, and coexistent with the Abe religions were not pacifist either and were hungry for land, slaves, and murder, just like the Abe's, and even worse. Pagan Rome employed crucifixion, remember? The ancient Chinese, were plenty, murderous, as well. In the Americas and Africa, as far as archaeologists and physical anthropologists, have determined, and were, what I term as being 'genocide friendly.' None of the species were really nice guys for much of the time.. Yep, the religions known as Stalinism and Nazism were just as destructive as the Crusades, etc. In fact anything ending in "Ism" seems to be a justification for murder or cruelty. (It looks like Capitalism is catching up with the others, and may soon surpass all of them if we aren't careful.) Excusing me, but the Crusades were a nick of time defensive response to a massive ongoing Islamic aggression. They had got as far as Spain by the time the ever dosy Europeans got their act together and realized this was now a choice between fighting for survival or succumbing. You say it like it was the other way around. A very popular myth in the Muslim world of today....maybe once it was prouder than that, I don't know. But accountability at the cultural level is not an Islamic strong suite in our time. Look at our guest right here. Bizarre that he pretends everything is ok. It isn't....Everywhere Muslims have settled in Europe is an unfolding disaster. There's no respect or regard for being in another peoples beloved lands and culture. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
