Everything with charge produces Coulomb force waves. My understanding is that this is the definition of “charge”. Particles with charge get that charge from tronnies within the particles. Tronnies get their charge from the Coulomb grid in which they exist. Most (maybe all) of the tronnies’ charge comes from itself since it is always at the focus of its own Coulomb force waves. Its Coulomb waves travel across the diameter of its circle with the same travel time as the tronnie which takes a circumferential route to the opposite side of the circle.
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 3:14 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: TRONNIES On 23 May 2014 02:55, John Ross <jr...@trexenterprises.com> wrote: The tronnie is a point focus of Coulomb force waves. The waves come from all directions at the speed of light to a focus at the point that is the tronnie. Then the Coulomb waves expand out from the tronnie in all directions at the speed of light repelling itself and other like tronnies. The tronnnie caries the Coulomb force with it as it travels in a circle at its speed of about 1.5708 c. This may sound a bit strange, but it is no stranger than an electron which carries the Coulomb force and travels at a very high speed, usually in a circle. In my model the electron is three circling tronnies two minus and one plus. In the old physics the electron is a single charge of minus e, which would mean that it carries the Coulomb force and that the Coulomb force waves expand out in all directions at the speed of light. I don’t see much difference. In the "old physics" I believe the Coulomb force (or electric field) is transmitted by virtual photons. So what carries the Coulomb force in the "new" physics? Does it have a particle which transmits it, or if not, what are the waves made of and / or propagating through? From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:31 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: TRONNIES So at the risk of repeating myself, what carries the coulomb force, which appears to move at c? On 22 May 2014 12:28, John Ross <jr...@trexenterprises.com> wrote: You are absolutely correct each tronnies looks across the diameter of his circle and sees himself of the other side of the circle. He also sees his partner at an angle of 53.515 degrees from the diameter, quite a bit closer. I don’t remember the episode you are thinking about, but clearly if the Enterprise traveled in a circle at warp 1.57087, Dr. Spock could look across the diameter of the circle and see the Enterprise from their past on the other side of the circle. Tronnies don’t outrun their own Coulomb force waves, they are always riding on it within their entron. Since the two tronnies are leapfrogging each other they have to travel at speeds of 2c but within the entrons their speed is 1.5708 c. But as you can see in FIG 4 entrons travel at speed of between minus 1c and plus 3c in its path inside a photon which travels at a speed of c. From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:22 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: TRONNIES Actually, now that I've read Russell's latest comment, I'd like to add something to my 3rd question. It appears that the "Coulomb force" itself propagates at lightspeed, which is how the tronnies manage to repel themselves - they effectively outrun their own radiation, and "see" a ghost tronnie on the opposite side of the circle, which is actually themselves (there is a name for this manoeuvre from "Star Trek", but I can't remember what it is). So the CF itself moves at c. Is that force carried by particles, or if not, what? And why is it limited to c when tronnies can move FTL? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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