> On 30-May-2014, at 12:03 pm, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/29/2014 9:52 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 30-May-2014, at 9:16 am, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>> On 5/29/2014 8:43 PM, Samiya             Illias wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 30-May-2014, at 7:35 am, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 30 May 2014 14:26, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> These are people who are committing crimes in the name of religion. You, 
>>>>>> on the outside, are horrified by such acts in the name of Islam, and are 
>>>>>> terrified of it, rightly so. We, on the other hand, live in midst of 
>>>>>> this blatant violation of the guidance in the Quran! What these elements 
>>>>>> have not been able to find or insert in the Quran, they have created
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some of the people involved are priests, and some are students of Islam - 
>>>>> do you think that these are people who are committing crimes in           
>>>>>               the name of religion? Again this is a straight question, 
>>>>> I'm not drawing any conclusions at the moment.
>>>> 
>>>> What's wrong is wrong. They may think they're doing right and may feel it 
>>>> to be their pious duty, however it is still wrong. How God will judge them 
>>>> is another matter, let God do that. However, it is important to speak up 
>>>> and point out that it's incorrect and inhumane. 
>>>> 
>>>> Please also bear in mind that all religions have suffered the tragedy of 
>>>> deviation from the original message, misunderstood and convoluted it into 
>>>> something terrible.
>>> 
>>> Exactly.  And why is that?  Isn't it because religions derive their dogma 
>>> from divine revelations which cannot be discarded, only "interpreted".  
>>> What religion ever praised the will to find out instead of the will to 
>>> believe?
>> 
>> ALQURAN CH3:191
>> 
>> Those who remember Allah standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides, 
>> and think deeply about the creation of the heavens and the earth,"Our Lord! 
>> You have not created this without purpose, glory to You! Give us salvation 
>> from the torment of the Fire. 
>> 
>> You can find many verses in the Quran which exhort us to think and use our 
>> intelligence.
> 
> And if you followed that advice you'd stop believing you can learn morals 
> from an imaginary despot.
> 
> Brent 

Morals are inbuilt. People all over the globe generally consider lying, 
cheating, stealing, killing, etc as wrong.  
However, there are certain situations where some of us are inclined to leniency 
while others demand strict action. With our limited understanding of certain 
situations, we cannot know which response is the correct approach to the wrong 
/ crime / injustice. Therefore, the divine guidance to instruct us in handling 
such matters. 
Witnessing the wondrous world around and within, the fine details with which 
everything has been created, and is being sustained, I am simply in awe and 
gratitude for everything to God. Immanent and transcendent, God is all-knowing, 
all-powerful, kind and loving. He created us, gave us life, hearing, sight, 
intelligence, family and society, and a user manual! Glad tidings and warnings 
about the certain to happen future are important information we need to prepare 
for our future. We can be grateful or we can throw a tantrum... 

Samiya 
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