On 13 June 2014 23:35, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 01:44:25AM -0700, Pierz wrote:
> > Yes. But I have to wonder what we're doing wrong, because any
> sophisticated
> > piece of  modern software such as a modern OS or even this humble mailing
> > list/forum software we are using is already "hugely mind-bogglingly
> > incremental". It has evolved over decades of incremental improvement
> > involving thousands upon thousands of workers building up layers of
> > increasing abstraction from the unfriendly silicon goings-on down below.
> > And yet Siri, far from being a virtual Scarlett Johannson, is still
> pretty
> > much dumb as dog-shit (though she has some neat bits of crystallised
> > intelligence built in. Inspired by "She" I asked her what she was
> wearing,
> > and she said, "I can't tell you but it doesn't come off."). Well, I'm
> still
> > agnostic on "comp", so I don't have to decide whether this conspicuous
> > failure represents evidence against computationalism. I do however
> consider
> > the bullish predictions of the likes of Deutsch (and even our own dear
> > Bruno) that we shall be uploading our brains or something by the end of
> the
> > century or sooner to be deluded. Deutsch wrote once (BoI?) that the
> > computational power required for human intelligence is already present
> in a
> > modern laptop; we just haven't had the programming breakthrough yet. I
> > think that is preposterous and can hardly credit he actually believes it.
> >
>
> It overstates the facts somewhat - a modern laptop is probably still
> about 3 orders of magnitude less powerful than a human brain, but with
> Moore's law, that gap will be closed in about 15 years.
>
> However, it is also true that having a 1000-fold more powerful
> computer does not get you human intelligence, so the programming
> breakthrough is still required.
>
> Cheers
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