Chickenhawk, a phrase created by US Left-turds, basically attempts to shame their opposites into silence. But what if the opposition is like a progressive, in which they have no shame? :-) Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, I have read already (13 rules) and found his advice, quite good. I want the US to survive, at least a while longer. The Christians await the return of Jesus, the Transhumanists await the arrival of the Singularity, the progressives await the triumph of 'world socialism." I want the US to survive and prosper. It's current leadership is geared to providing for some of the desires of its funders and client-new poor. Progressive policies are now unraveling as war increases in the Ukraine, Nigeria, Iraq, Syria, and the power vacuum will be filled. Let us see who fills this power vacuum?
You are an American Nationalist who wants others to go die for you… essentially. My question, which I repeat, if you are so gung ho about some kind of clash of civilizations then how come you are not on the front lines fighting your crusade? Or do you prefer that others do the dying while you get to wax on with your self-righteous attitude? While you take care to keep yourself well out of harm’s way… A chickenhawk: One, who is a hawk, but only when it is others who are doing the dying. -----Original Message----- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sat, Jun 28, 2014 8:09 pm Subject: RE: American Intelligence From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Well, of one takes the actions or inactions of gov leaders, specifically, U.S., then there is a lot at stake to lose. I am, whatever it's worth, far different, from what Fox views editorially. For instance, Rupert Murdoch is meeting with Obama advisor, Valerie Jarrett on promoting more immigration from Latin America. That is different then how I feel. Secondly, most US media are never critical of Obama's governance, because he is a fellow progressive, and the first black president. No criticisms, just support. Oh believe I am an American nationalist, but a pragmatic one. I always ask what has been achieved if anything? You are an American Nationalist who wants others to go die for you… essentially. My question, which I repeat, if you are so gung ho about some kind of clash of civilizations then how come you are not on the front lines fighting your crusade? Or do you prefer that others do the dying while you get to wax on with your self-righteous attitude? While you take care to keep yourself well out of harm’s way… A chickenhawk: One, who is a hawk, but only when it is others who are doing the dying. Moreover, Using ponder where, as a species we want to be? The only thing anyone needs to fear from the ineffectual Fox News, is when somebody screws up and then lies about it. Lastly, I don't see Fox as having all that much clout, so your displeasure with them is likely, a waste of bradykinans, the brain chemical. -----Original Message----- From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy <multiplecit...@gmail.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: 28-Jun-2014 10:41:40 +0000 Subject: Re: American Intelligence On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 2:10 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: Not disagreeing with Brent, but realpolitik only works when you like the outcome. I tend to be absolutist in my war views, so the nuances are wasted on me. Indeed, often you sound as "absolutist" as the militant FOX bitch, Liz posted yesterday. Not that I mind, but it's worth pointing out, I guess. PGC It is however, what's the result at the end of the day. The biggest question is, what is the national interest? Usually it means whatever pleases the super rich. If you happen to be on Soros or the Koch's side, then all is good. If not...? It's called realpolitik. Do you want the President to choose who to support based on their morality and disregard the national interest? And how would you measure their morality? Maybe the real plan is to keep any one murderous faction from winning so they keep fighting till they've all killed each other. Brent -----Original Message----- From: meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thu, Jun 26, 2014 11:57 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence On 6/26/2014 8:45 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ruquist Spud, I will fault Obama for supporting the ISIS in Syria but opposing them in Iraq. Richard It amazed me how they tried to rebrand these intolerant murderous A-holes as freedom fighters when these dogs of war became useful tools again in Syria. From Al-Qaida our immortal enemies to “freedom fighters” just like that, given the old Madison Avenue makeover. The cynicism of the power knows no bounds and has no decency at all in its old vampire bones. It's called realpolitik. Do you want the President to choose who to support based on their morality and disregard the national interest? And how would you measure their morality? Maybe the real plan is to keep any one murderous faction from winning so they keep fighting till they've all killed each other. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. 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