Agreed, but Mom, he started it! You like to dish it out, but, maybe, don't take it very well. It's hard to say, and even harder to care. My jingoism is a good thing, if its applied to national survival. For example, on energy, I am jingoistic enough to favor the Keystone pipeline, shale fracking, as well, as conservation technologies, pursuing solar and wind, and especially the technical means of storing and transmitting quickly and efficiently, solar and wind power. People are so untrusting of nuclear fission, whether uranium or thorium, that the financial costs, makes it inferior to solar and wind. The traitor thing is a ideological P O V. because they net effect is to destabilize the US. It may be by accident, or simple malpractice, but the Marxist&Billionaires' parties seem incapable of making life better and instead making life worse.
Frankly the Left worldwide, whether its in Obamaland here, or in Hollande's France destabilizes nation states. and makes life worse, despite their promises. If you want throw in with them, that's your business. Calling me names will not make a man out of you spudboi. You ceaselessly blather on about war and insinuate that those who do not share your sick enthusiasm for it are traitors… all from the safety of your computer… behaving as cowards have been behaving down through the ages. I truly have no respect for loudmouthed jingoistic clowns, such as yourself, who reserve the actual fighting and dying for others to go do. Fight your own damn crusade chickenhawk. Chris -----Original Message----- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, Jun 29, 2014 2:25 pm Subject: RE: American Intelligence From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:56 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: American Intelligence Having a hissy-fit, or a Chrissy fit? War, is something to survive if one can, to win, or avoid fighting in the first place. Now if you want to discuss and sort through what policies work, and what policies do not, that is interesting. The progressive side of things is all amygdala, and these policies seems to be based on this. In the 19th century, French social philosopher, Gustave Le Bon, pretty much nailed it, with his treatise, The Crowd. Even though its a very, old, work, it still seems spot-on! Both Adolf and Lenin wuved it. You are absolutely a coward in your war “actions” though…. War, for you, is for other people to fight. Chris Calling me names will not make a man out of you spudboi. You ceaselessly blather on about war and insinuate that those who do not share your sick enthusiasm for it are traitors… all from the safety of your computer… behaving as cowards have been behaving down through the ages. I truly have no respect for loudmouthed jingoistic clowns, such as yourself, who reserve the actual fighting and dying for others to go do. Fight your own damn crusade chickenhawk. Chris -----Original Message----- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sat, Jun 28, 2014 1:35 pm Subject: RE: American Intelligence From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 5:10 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: American Intelligence Not disagreeing with Brent, but realpolitik only works when you like the outcome. I tend to be absolutist in my war views, so the nuances are wasted on me. You are absolutely a coward in your war “actions” though…. War, for you, is for other people to fight. Chris It is however, what's the result at the end of the day. The biggest question is, what is the national interest? Usually it means whatever pleases the super rich. If you happen to be on Soros or the Koch's side, then all is good. If not...? It's called realpolitik. Do you want the President to choose who to support based on their morality and disregard the national interest? And how would you measure their morality? Maybe the real plan is to keep any one murderous faction from winning so they keep fighting till they've all killed each other. Brent -----Original Message----- From: meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thu, Jun 26, 2014 11:57 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence On 6/26/2014 8:45 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ruquist Spud, I will fault Obama for supporting the ISIS in Syria but opposing them in Iraq. Richard It amazed me how they tried to rebrand these intolerant murderous A-holes as freedom fighters when these dogs of war became useful tools again in Syria. From Al-Qaida our immortal enemies to “freedom fighters” just like that, given the old Madison Avenue makeover. The cynicism of the power knows no bounds and has no decency at all in its old vampire bones. It's called realpolitik. Do you want the President to choose who to support based on their morality and disregard the national interest? And how would you measure their morality? Maybe the real plan is to keep any one murderous faction from winning so they keep fighting till they've all killed each other. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. 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