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Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:05 AM
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Subject: Re: American Intelligence
Chickenhawk, a phrase created by US Left-turds, basically attempts to shame
their opposites into silence.
Haha – being called a coward kind of hurts doesn’t it chickenhawk…. Why so?
Perhaps because I have hit the nail on the head. You are gung ho for war, but
only when it involves other people.
But what if the opposition is like a progressive, in which they have no shame?
:-) Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, I have read already (13 rules) and found
his advice, quite good. I want the US to survive, at least a while longer.
No… you want the world to go down in the firestorm of a clash of civilizations
idiot.
The Christians await the return of Jesus, the Transhumanists await the arrival
of the Singularity, the progressives await the triumph of 'world socialism." I
want the US to survive and prosper.
Bullshit – you want to drag this country down into the hellish pit of the
global clash of civilizations war you imagine is occurring. Step up to the
plate, coward and go off to fight on the front line, yourself chickenhawk.
Chris
It's current leadership is geared to providing for some of the desires of its
funders and client-new poor. Progressive policies are now unraveling as war
increases in the Ukraine, Nigeria, Iraq, Syria, and the power vacuum will be
filled. Let us see who fills this power vacuum?
You are an American Nationalist who wants others to go die for you…
essentially. My question, which I repeat, if you are so gung ho about some kind
of clash of civilizations then how come you are not on the front lines fighting
your crusade? Or do you prefer that others do the dying while you get to wax on
with your self-righteous attitude? While you take care to keep yourself well
out of harm’s way…
A chickenhawk: One, who is a hawk, but only when it is others who are doing the
dying.
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From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
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Sent: Sat, Jun 28, 2014 8:09 pm
Subject: RE: American Intelligence
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Well, of one takes the actions or inactions of gov leaders, specifically, U.S.,
then there is a lot at stake to lose. I am, whatever it's worth, far different,
from what Fox views editorially. For instance, Rupert Murdoch is meeting with
Obama advisor, Valerie Jarrett on promoting more immigration from Latin
America. That is different then how I feel. Secondly, most US media are never
critical of Obama's governance, because he is a fellow progressive, and the
first black president. No criticisms, just support. Oh believe I am an American
nationalist, but a pragmatic one. I always ask what has been achieved if
anything?
You are an American Nationalist who wants others to go die for you…
essentially. My question, which I repeat, if you are so gung ho about some kind
of clash of civilizations then how come you are not on the front lines fighting
your crusade? Or do you prefer that others do the dying while you get to wax on
with your self-righteous attitude? While you take care to keep yourself well
out of harm’s way…
A chickenhawk: One, who is a hawk, but only when it is others who are doing the
dying.
Moreover, Using ponder where, as a species we want to be? The only thing anyone
needs to fear from the ineffectual Fox News, is when somebody screws up and
then lies about it. Lastly, I don't see Fox as having all that much clout, so
your displeasure with them is likely, a waste of bradykinans, the brain
chemical.
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From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy <multiplecit...@gmail.com>
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Sent: 28-Jun-2014 10:41:40 +0000
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 2:10 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List
<everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Not disagreeing with Brent, but realpolitik only works when you like the
outcome. I tend to be absolutist in my war views, so the nuances are wasted on
me.
Indeed, often you sound as "absolutist" as the militant FOX bitch, Liz posted
yesterday. Not that I mind, but it's worth pointing out, I guess. PGC
It is however, what's the result at the end of the day. The biggest question
is, what is the national interest? Usually it means whatever pleases the super
rich. If you happen to be on Soros or the Koch's side, then all is good. If
not...?
It's called realpolitik. Do you want the President to choose who to support
based on their morality and disregard the national interest? And how would you
measure their morality? Maybe the real plan is to keep any one murderous
faction from winning so they keep fighting till they've all killed each other.
Brent
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From: meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
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Sent: Thu, Jun 26, 2014 11:57 pm
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
On 6/26/2014 8:45 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ruquist
Spud,
I will fault Obama for supporting the ISIS in Syria but opposing them in Iraq.
Richard
It amazed me how they tried to rebrand these intolerant murderous A-holes as
freedom fighters when these dogs of war became useful tools again in Syria.
From Al-Qaida our immortal enemies to “freedom fighters” just like that, given
the old Madison Avenue makeover.
The cynicism of the power knows no bounds and has no decency at all in its old
vampire bones.
It's called realpolitik. Do you want the President to choose who to support
based on their morality and disregard the national interest? And how would you
measure their morality? Maybe the real plan is to keep any one murderous
faction from winning so they keep fighting till they've all killed each other.
Brent
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