On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>> Why in hell do we keep talking about ancient ignoramuses like Plotinus >> and the worst physicist who ever lived, Aristotle? >> > > > Aristotle was a brilliant physicist. > WHAT?! > Indeed, his word initiates physics. > If Aristotle had never been born physics would have advanced more quickly than it has, for over a thousand years it had the dead weight of Aristotle holding it back. > That his theories were all refuted has nothing to do with that. > Aristotle's theories could have been easily refuted even in his own day, like his theory that women have fewer teeth than men. Or take his theory that heavy things fall faster than lighter ones, even if he was too lazy to perform the experiment he should have been able to figure out from pure logic that this can't be right. If you take a big rock and tie it to a slightly smaller rock with a rope with some slack in it and drop them then both rocks would fall slower than the big rock alone because the slower moving smaller rock would bog it down, but the tied together object would fall faster than the big rock because the new object is heavier than the big rock alone. > > you treat current theology as bullshit > No it's worse than that, farmers can tell you that fields of bullshit exists without a doubt, but theology has no field of study, that is to say an expert on theology doesn't know anymore about how the universe operates than a non-expert. 1) God does not answer prayers. >> > > > How do you know that? > You told me, you said that's not what you mean by "God". > By the way, it might be possible that with comp > Well good for "comp". >> 2) God is not omnipotent. >> > > > "omnipotence" is self-contradictory. > I know, but a little thing like being self-contradictory would never stop a good theologian. > >> 3) God is not omniscient. >> > > > With comp God is 3p > Well good for "comp" and good for pee. >> 4) God is not intelligent. >> > > > How do you know that? > You told me, you said that's not what you mean by "God". >> 5) God is not conscious. >> > > > With comp (+ classical epistemology), this is subtle. God, the ONE, > arithmetical truth splits into the 3p outer realm > Well good for "comp" and good for those peepee outer realms. >> 6) God has nothing to do with morality. >> > > > I think it has to do. That is probablmy the act of faith of the Platonist > Faith sucks. Why is passionately believing in something without a good reason a virtue? >> 7) God is not a being at all just some sort of vague undefined principle. >> > > > It is responsible for the whole being > Then perhaps I should pray to the Higgs Field. > you have already your religion on this. > Wow, calling a guy known for disliking religion religious, never heard that one before, at least I never heard it before I was 12. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
