Thank you.
On 12 August 2014 08:44, spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Kewl Mike. > Writer of fantasy and scfi, Lin Carter. many years ago, toyed with words > and came up with the phrase "plenum mechanics," as a cover for quantum > mechanics. You phrase Plenitude, sort of reminded me of this. Whether there > is an Everett MWI of an Infinite Universe, it almost doesn't matter because > whether zillions of Hubble Volumes, or one big place, it ends up all the > same, sort of. You can buy a six pack or a pony keg, but its all beer/ale > inside, is my reasoning. > > There was a paper published at ARXIV back in December or January, by a > physicist named Paul Wesson, who specializes in general relativity and > extra physical dimensions. Wesson postulated that like Kaluza and Klein, > before him, there's a working 5th dimension. Wesson suggests that the > GreatSilence of Fermi, is because people discover this dimension and use it > to post IM's faster than light. This is akin to Verner Vinge's 'A Fire Upon > the Deep,' novel. The 'people' are other civilizations, in case I didn't > make this clear? I think Vinge, minus the interaction of his characters, > could have gotten away with dealing with spammers, trolling, and gossip, on > a cosmic scale. I'd like to see someone tackle this, as a good read. > Interested ;-) Good luck with your writing Liz and Mike. > > Mitch > > Spudboy - and Liz: > thanks for the approval - I wouldn't have resorted to Everett's MWI even > in 1990 (found it restrictive to our lately human conclusions) nor to an > 'infinite' universe (finiteless world is better in which we have > unrestricted (number and qualia) universes, So I proposed (my version): a > "Plenitude" of everything of which the groundrule-total symmetry (more than > we can imagine) HAS TO BE violated by closing together of "SIMILAR" items > (I would have written: components) from movement to movement changes (time > is not part of the Plenitude). These 'complexities' of the violations ARE > the universes in no restriction of topical compositions. They arise and > dissipate - not as looked from the inside: ours e.g. passes long-long eras > of TIME in far-far areas of SPACE - as *we* think of it and look at from > the INSIDE. . > Such cosmologic agnosticism arose after the manuscript was already out. > I do not intend to download something I wrote before developing ideas I > hold now. I looked into 'modernizing' it to my developing agnosticism, but > did not find the energy - too much effort needed. And: my present views are > only that: PRESENT views, not holding till tomorrow. > Thanks > John M > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> > To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Mon, Aug 11, 2014 4:15 pm > Subject: Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and > alternative energy lovers > > Spudboy - and Liz: > thanks for the approval - I wouldn't have resorted to Everett's MWI even > in 1990 (found it restrictive to our lately human conclusions) nor to an > 'infinite' universe (finiteless world is better in which we have > unrestricted (number and qualia) universes, So I proposed (my version): a > "Plenitude" of everything of which the groundrule-total symmetry (more than > we can imagine) HAS TO BE violated by closing together of "SIMILAR" items > (I would have written: components) from movement to movement changes (time > is not part of the Plenitude). These 'complexities' of the violations ARE > the universes in no restriction of topical compositions. They arise and > dissipate - not as looked from the inside: ours e.g. passes long-long eras > of TIME in far-far areas of SPACE - as *we* think of it and look at from > the INSIDE. . > Such cosmologic agnosticism arose after the manuscript was already out. > I do not intend to download something I wrote before developing ideas I > hold now. I looked into 'modernizing' it to my developing agnosticism, but > did not find the energy - too much effort needed. And: my present views are > only that: PRESENT views, not holding till tomorrow. > Thanks > John M > > > On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:50 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> Let me know when its ready to download? >> >> Oh yes indeed. That is the subject of my first novel, currently in the >> process of editing, good post apocalyptic fun set after those people have >> more or less achieved their aim. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> >> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sun, Aug 10, 2014 2:05 am >> Subject: Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and >> alternative energy lovers >> >> On 10 August 2014 02:15, spudboy100 via Everything List < >> everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> You don't need to alter your politics, simply be aware, that there >>> appear to be rich people who seek a die-off. >> >> >> Oh yes indeed. That is the subject of my first novel, currently in the >> process of editing, good post apocalyptic fun set after those people have >> more or less achieved their aim. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
