On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy < multiplecit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Still don't get relation between comp and resolution of finite, infinite > controversy; especially given "..." attribute today of supposedly finite > comp. > > And I'm going to stay quite obtuse (at least [image: \aleph_0]-obtuse, if > I have to quantify) on this so bring it on, either way. > > A friend thankfully pointed out that I am perhaps mixing up the objects of the ontology and their implied meta level; which would resolve my obtuosity indeed. On the meta level, as I can gather, the ontology is infinite, say the natural numbers, but the ontology is not a member of the ontology! (There's my "oops, ok yes, shit!") N itself is not a natural number, similar to set theory where the collection of all sets is not a set. So finitism: all existing "Urstuff/Urmachines/Urentities or Urthing-stuffjunks" are finite, the whole of course infinite, but that itself not being such a thing by reasoning above. Ultrafinitism then: "set of all numbers is finite" and whatever weird logic they need to have numbers obey some weirder upper limit, and I heard they issue fines and tickets for anybody who states a bigger number. I learn "immaterial size and the thingstuffentity itself" does matter! Thankfully I have friends that can kick me over the head like this and rid me of superfluous robustobtusity. PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
