On 10/1/2014 8:31 PM, LizR wrote:
Thank you, that's interesting (of course, it should be obvious to anyone with a few brain cells that facile generalisations are bad... but they creep in all too easily...)

But also facile distinctions are made:

/ASLAN: Stoning and mutilation and those barbaric practices should be condemned and criticized by everyone. The actions of individuals and societies and countries like Iran, like Pakistan, like Saudi Arabia must be condemned, because they don't belong in the 21st century.//
//
//But to say Muslim countries, as though Pakistan and Turkey are the same, as though Indonesia and Saudi Arabia are the same, as though somehow what is happening in the most extreme forms of these repressive countries, these autocratic countries, is representative of what's happening in every other Muslim country, is, frankly -- and I use this word seriously -- stupid. So let's stop doing that. /


Turkey is different precisely because Kemal Ataturk made separation of church and state a foundation of Turkey - something directly contrary to the Quran which mandates theocracy. So it is not as though the differences are between Pakistan and Turkey or Saudi Arabia and Indonesia are unrelated to religion. The difference are that the more barabaric nations are the more religious.

Brent

On 2 October 2014 15:56, Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com <mailto:samiyaill...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    The following link might be of interest. It addresses some of the questions 
raised
    on this forum about Islam.
    Samiya


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    Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:23:35 -0400


    Good segment

    
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/09/30/reza_aslan_mahers_facile_generalizations_of_islam_the_definition_of_bigotry.html

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