On 23 Jan 2015, at 00:24, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/22/2015 9:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 21 Jan 2015, at 20:27, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/21/2015 3:48 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
If you completely discard the concept of "truth" and replace it
entirely with "evolutionary usefulness" - does that change
anything?
I think it might. For example, suppose we all share the same
consciousness. It is evolutionary useful to maintain the illusion
that this is not the case (thus my previous rant).
If you "start with consciousness" then it is fundamental that
consciousness if not shared - otherwise I'd be conscious of it.
I guess you mean "is not shared".
But are you not conscious right now, we do share the experience of
being conscious, even if we don't share the exact same relative
contents.
But I'm not conscious of you being conscious.
That's why you cannot be sure that we have a different basic
consciousness. We might be the same person, with different relative
identity. In fact it is a benign move to bet that we are the same
universal person (S4Grz(PA) or S4Grz(M))(*) with diverging
experiences, like the W and M guy. With computationalism, we are God
playing hide and seek with itself. Illumination is when you remember
being that guy with no or few experience. It is comparable with the
reminiscence of being a baby, but it is a universal baby.
(*) From now on, I will write X(M) for the interpretation of the modal
logic X in the terms of the machine M. For example, without further
ado, in G(PA) the box [] is for Gödel's beweisbar predicate.
Brent
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