On 18 Mar 2015, at 18:07, Quentin Anciaux wrote:

Liar Clark seriously ? you wanna go down that way, asserting Bruno is affraid of machine intelligence where all is work is about computationalism ? really ?

I am glad you notice the anomaly. It looks like a lie, indeed.



It's so pathetic,

Yes. I wonder why he acts like that. How much conscious he is. Is it incompetence or malice?

At least John acts in front of me. My usual opponents lied too, but behind my back.

It comforts me somehow to hear those lies. It shows the problem is not my work, but in the difficulty that some people have with fundamental question, on which they have already their religion.

I still don't know if John Clark is aware of its aristotelian prejudices. But may be it is lower than that, and it could be the usual jealousy or something. Presenting me as against machine intelligence is frankly incredible, and very low, as you say.

Bruno



I don't understand why you can stoop so low and lie so much against him... Is he threatening you ? maybe because even competent is not an adjective we should use with you.




Quentin

2015-03-18 17:57 GMT+01:00 John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com>:


On Tue, Mar 17, 2015  Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:

>> So, consciousness - evolutionary advantage or spandrell?

> Both. I would say.

Then the Turing Test works for consciousness and not just for intelligence. But then you don't believe the Turing Test even works for intelligence because you believe that the ability to do intelligent things has nothing to do with being intelligent, an idea so breathtakingly silly nobody would dream of uttering it unless they were driven to do so by their fear of intelligent machines. I guess "competent machines" sounds less threatening to you.

  John K Clark







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