Best guess on my part. Platonia produces physicalism, via constant computation
{unproven} and yields the universe. Platonia is more real then 3 and 4 D space
that we are created from. Steinhart's theory- we are a data stream-process,
that gets promoted to another hypercomputer. Control-Alt-Delete! Aristotle
versus Plato, Berkeley versus Newton. They both win.
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From: LizR <lizj...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 29, 2015 8:57 pm
Subject: Re: The MGA revisited
On 29 March 2015 at 21:04, Bruce Kellett <bhkell...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
As you see, I believe in physicalism, not in Platonia. And I have not yet seen
any argument that might lead me to change my mind.
One reason that has been suggested is the "unreasonable effectiveness" of maths
as a description of physics. This is Max Tegmark's argument for the
"Mathematical Universe Hypothesis". To take this to its logical conclusion, if
we ever formulate a theory that (as far as we know) describes everything that
exists - a real live TOE - then, Tegmark would say, what is there that
distinguishes the universe from the, by hypothesis completely accurate,
description? His conclusion is nothing, and since the maths description is
simpler than the observed universe, the scientific conclusion is that what we
observe is a part of a multiverse containing all outcomes of the TOE (this is a
bit like Russell's TON, with the equations of the TOE as the "almost nothing"
that actually exists) - and that assuming the universe is anything more than
just "What the maths looks like from the inside" is unnecessary - and
untestable - metaphysical speculation.
However we don't have such a TOE as yet, so it's possible it will turn out to
be non-mathematical, in which case Max's argument will sink without trace.
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