On 12 Jun 2015, at 20:54, meekerdb wrote:
On 6/12/2015 8:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
It is bizarre that some people tarnish the effort of people working
in some field, and admits not being interested in the question. may
be Bruce just confuse physics and metaphysical physicalism.
Bruno
One might be interested in the idea that computationalism has
implications for physics which are not metaphysical. There are many
speculative theories of physics that are based on information as the
ur-stuff and one would naively suppose that a computationalist
theory of the world would have something to say about them.
It is comp. Just more fuzzy, more empirically based, and less
advanced, except of course for the matter part (with the Landauer
result, and the Feynman-Deutsch universal quantum Turing computer).
But some people plays with the word "information", as in the mundane
sense, it points on the semantic of the information, and not his
possible Shannon or algorithmic measure (classical or quantum).
With computationalism this is "easier": we have the bit of
information, and we have the universal machine which will interpret
that information, and we have the arithmetical truth, which gauge that
interpretation.
Most people in the field seems still unaware of the FPI, and invoke an
Aristotelian God (Primary Matter) which makes no sense if we take
computationalism seriously enough.
The information paradigm hides the one who interprets the information:
the universal numbers/systems. They miss thus also the opportunity to
use Theoretical Computer Science.
Comp makes easy to distinguish the 3p and 1p notions, which in the
case of information is something very important to do, as it is almost
as different than quanta and qualia.
Bruno
Brent
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