On 12 Sep 2015, at 18:13, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Clifford Pickover (mathematical biologist) once did an interview
with Godel, and a few weeks later, had a dream in which he and Godel
were playing chess, and in the dream Godel swept his arm across the
chessboard knocking all the pieces over. Pickover said he woke up an
noted the time. Later that morning he said he was informed of
Godel's passing, which happened to be the same time as his dream.
Godel also believed in an afterlife (crazy?) but only if the
universe rotated. It does not appear to rotate.
I hear that for the first time, what is the reference for "Godel also
believed in an afterlife (crazy?) but only if the universe rotated. It
does not appear to rotate.",
I was aware that Gödel was open to the possibility of after-life, but
more related to non-mechanism than to mechanism. And if what you say
is true, it illustrates that Gödel was still Aristotelian., and still
believing in the mind-brain identity thesis (which break up both with
computationalism or with QM-without-collapse (I think).
And, BTW, once we assume mechanism, I don't see how we can avoid
afterlife, and indeed afterlives. The problem is more in the fact that
that there are too many, of many different sorts. Not that I believe
this, or not: it is just a simple consequence of computationalisme, or
classical indexical computationalism (to distinguish the
theo(techno)logical thesis from the metaphorical use).
Bruno
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From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, Sep 11, 2015 3:56 pm
Subject: Re: Gödel's Philosophy
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 , Pierz <pier...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's amazing to me that a man of Gödel's brilliance could
take the drivel of the ontological argument seriously. Did I miss
something about that specious piece of sophistry?
Godel
wrote his ontological stuff in his later years when
he went off the rails , but fortunately even at his
worst he retained enough sanity to know he should not publish the
thing , that came after his death . I think Godel
was the greatest logician of all time but he had
some very illogical ideas. Godel was always a very odd man and he
got odder as he got older especially after his best friend,
Albert Einstein, died in 1955 . He sealed his windows shut
because he thought night air was deadly except on t he coldest
days of winter when he thought somebody would try to
murder hi m with poison gas, and he wore
a heavy woolen coat on the hottest day of summer
, Godel believed in ghosts and for unknown reasons he
insisted on putting lots of cheap plastic flamingos on his front
lawn. Godel disliked talking to people but if he had to he
insisted they do it on the telephone even if they were just a few
feet away. Godel ended up starving himself to death, he refused
to eat because he thought unnamed sinister forces were trying to
poison him. The great logician weighed 65 pounds when he died in
1978 from, according to the official death certificate,
" lack of food brought on by paranoia " .
John K Clark
Other than that I'm in 87.5% agreement with him...
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