On 10/3/2015 11:55 AM, Jason Resch wrote:


On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 11:43 AM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com <mailto:johnkcl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    On Sat, Oct 3, 2015  Bruce Kellett <bhkell...@optusnet.com.au
    <mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>>wrote:

        ​ >​
         Information is physical.


    ​True, and nothing physical can be transferred faster than ​light
    so we can never effect things more distant than 13.8 billion light
    years
    ​ and they can never effect us.​

        ​ > ​
        If there is no transfer of information


    ​It is not always necessary to transfer information for 2 things
    to be identical. There are only a finite number of ways a finite
    number of atoms can be arranged in a finite volume, so if the
    universe is infinite and not just very very big then a gargantuan
    (but still finite) number of light years away there must be a
    collection of atoms identical to
    Bruce Kellett
    ​ , in fact there are an infinite number of them. And at even
    larger (but still finite) distances a volume of space with a
    radius of 13.8 billion light years centered on one of those ​
    Bruce Kellett
    ​ s is identical to the
    volume of space with a radius of 13.8 billion light years centered on
    ​ this ​
    Bruce Kellett
    ​ . And there are an infinite number of them too.

        ​ > ​
there is no way one could test what the copy thought.

    ​There is no way to know directly what your next door ​neighbor is
    thinking but you can usually make a pretty good guess, and if a
    copy of you is physically identical to you then it's a pretty good
    guess he's thinking the same thing you are.


But you're assuming the copy is in an evironment equivalent this world. Suppose this Bruce Kellet copy were in a world just like this EXCEPT that everybody in his world knew him as John Clark?

Brent

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