On 10/7/2015 3:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
But I think that's wrong. Brains are not like ideal von Neumann computers or Turing machines that have "brain states" corresponding to "mental states". If you simulated a brain using a computer you would find that an enormous number of "brain states" were required to instantiate a single conscious thought and furthermore the brains states necessary for one thought overlapped with those necessary for the next thought. So this overlap at the low level is part of the physical continuity needed for consciousness.

But then you need to assume non-computationalisme, and consider yourself as a non Turing elumable reality. OK, but that does not solve the mind-body problem per se. It only introduce diffculties.

I didn't assume computationalism was false, I just assumed that relation between thoughts and computations was one->many. If you instantiate thoughts by simulating a brain in a digitial computer then each thought or experience will correspond to many sequential steps in the computation, with no sharp division between one thought and the next.




The fact that the physics can be simulated by discrete computation doesn't imply that the conscious states are discrete.

The fact that consciousness state might be discrete implies that physics cannot be simulated by discrete computation. Physics needs all computations all at once to get the mathematically correct FPI.

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Brent

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