On 10/25/2015 8:38 AM, Jason Resch wrote:


On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Bruce Kellett <bhkell...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:

    On 25/10/2015 6:12 pm, Pierz wrote:

        It's hard to see how physics can be self-consistent without
        the a priori existence of arithmetic.


    Maybe it is because the self-consistency of physics is what makes
    arithmetic possible.

        Though admittedly that is a different point to whether or not
        physics is "emulated" in arithmetic.


    True. But no-one has yet emulated any physics in arithmetic. All
    the we have is mathematical accounts of discovered physical laws
    -- arithmetic based in physics.


I recently replied to someone on the FOAR list who expressed a similar criticism:

     Something has to "run" the math... ;)  electricity or not.


Isn't this being a bit one-sided?
Physics can run itself, but objects in math cannot.
A physical universe can exist independently of anything else, but a mathematical object cannot. A physical computation can result in consciousness, a mathematical computation results in nothing.

From where does such bias originate?

From experience as a physical being.

Brent

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