On 10/25/2015 5:08 PM, Jason Resch wrote:


On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:



    On 10/25/2015 8:38 AM, Jason Resch wrote:


    On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Bruce Kellett
    <bhkell...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:

        On 25/10/2015 6:12 pm, Pierz wrote:

            It's hard to see how physics can be self-consistent
            without the a priori existence of arithmetic.


        Maybe it is because the self-consistency of physics is what
        makes arithmetic possible.

            Though admittedly that is a different point to whether or
            not physics is "emulated" in arithmetic.


        True. But no-one has yet emulated any physics in arithmetic.
        All the we have is mathematical accounts of discovered
        physical laws -- arithmetic based in physics.


    I recently replied to someone on the FOAR list who expressed a
    similar criticism:

         Something has to "run" the math... ;)  electricity or not.


    Isn't this being a bit one-sided?
    Physics can run itself, but objects in math cannot.
    A physical universe can exist independently of anything else, but
    a mathematical object cannot.
    A physical computation can result in consciousness, a
    mathematical computation results in nothing.

    From where does such bias originate?

    From experience as a physical being.


Your experience provides evidence for the existence of the physical universe, but don't confuse this for evidence of the non-existence of anything outside the physical universe.

You mean don't confuse it with existence of imaginary things?

Brent

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