On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:

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>> ​I saw only a apple, my friend saw only a banana, what is *THE* one and
>> only fruit that *BOTH* me *AND* my friend ​saw? Silly question.
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> I agree so much with you on this!
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> Although the question is not silly when asked to the Helsinki guy before
> his duplication, as he will live, assuming computationalism, two different
> first person continuations.
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​And here we go again with the "his" and  "he"  pronoun circus. John Clark
will rephrase what Bruno Marchal said above but ​

​without using a "he" colored personal pronoun rug to sweep fuzzy thinking
under:

*The question​ of what one and only one city ​the Helsinki ​man will see
after the Helsinki ​man​ is duplicated is not silly when asked ​to​​​ the
Helsinki ​man​ before ​the Helsinki ​man's ​duplication, as​ ​​​after the
Helsinki ​man's duplication the Helsinki ​man will live in 2 different
cities. *

​John Clark disagrees, John Clark thinks that is a very very silly
question.​


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> No diary contains a description of the first person (conscious or not)
> experience
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​Then there is no reason to ever refer to that stupid diary ever again.​



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> "I (here and now) saw directly, after opening the door
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​Please specify
​ which door the above refers to, the one in Moscow or the one in
Washington.​


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> I recall the main tip that you seem to forget all the time: to get the
> first person records,
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​Please specify exactly who's first person records should be gotten.


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> listen to your copies.
>

 ​Please specify exactly
​ who should be doing the listening. ​

 John K Clark
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