On 14 Aug 2016, at 18:26, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>
wrote:
>> I saw only a apple, my friend saw only a banana, what is
THE one and only fruit that BOTH me AND my friend saw? Silly
question.
> I agree so much with you on this! Although the question
is not silly when asked to the Helsinki guy before his duplication,
as he will live, assuming computationalism, two different first
person continuations.
And here we go again with the "his" and "he" pronoun circus.
John Clark will rephrase what Bruno Marchal said above but
without using a "he" colored personal pronoun rug to sweep fuzzy
thinking under:
The question of what one and only one city the Helsinki man
will see after the Helsinki man is duplicated is not silly when
asked to the Helsinki man before the Helsinki
man's duplication, as after the Helsinki man's
duplication the Helsinki man will live in 2 different cities.
John Clark disagrees, John Clark thinks that is a very very silly
question.
> No diary contains a description of the first person
(conscious or not) experience
Then there is no reason to ever refer to that stupid diary ever
again.
> "I (here and now) saw directly, after opening the door
[....]
Please specify which door the above refers to, the one in
Moscow or the one in Washington.
> I recall the main tip that you seem to forget all the time:
to get the first person records,
Please specify exactly who's first person records should be gotten.
> listen to your copies.
Please specify exactly who should be doing the listening.
Answer, or re-answer to question 1. Up to now you are inconsistent,
making impossible to progress.
Bruno
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