On 10 Sep 2016, at 16:22, Stephen Paul King wrote:

Hi,

Is there any consideration of the duration of the period of time of the moment? Are they assumed to have vanishingly small durations?


Duration and moment are more like Bergson-Brouwer 1p notion. It emerges in the 1p statistics on all relative computations. I guess a moment might be well approximated there by an open set in some topological space, probably through the semantics of the machine first person theories (S4Grz(1), X1*).

To have the notion of computation, and the computations per se, we need only the digital clock given by the successor operation, and (at a different level) from the induction axioms (for the machine who want prove things about the computations).

Bruno









On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 7:44:16 PM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 11:38 PM, Charles Goodwin <crg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everyone and everything, I was discussing comp and similar things with > Liz the other day and we came across a sticking point in what I think (from
> memory) is step 7 of the UDA. Maybe you can help?
>
> I'm assuming AR, "Yes, Doctor" and so on. At step 7 we reach the point where > we assume that a physical Universal Dovetailer can be created and that it > runs forever, and ask what is the probability that my observer moments are
> generated by it, rather than by my brain.
>
> Now ISTM that the UD will have an infinite number of possible programmes to > run, so even if it runs forever, how does it get on to the second step in
> any of them?

Every program can be mapped to a natural number (intuitively, imagine
the binary encoding of a program in any Turing-complete language).
With something akin to the binary encoding (more abstractly, you can
do this to the state table of a Universal Turing Machine), program
size increases with their numbers.

Then the dovetailer proceeds like so:

- execute step 1 of program 1
- execute step 2 of program 1
- execute step 1 of program 2
- execute step 3 of program 1
- execute step 2 of program 2
- execute step 1 of program 3
...

So it will only take finite time for all the computable programs of up
to a certain size to finish.

Telmo.

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