On 08 Feb 2017, at 05:05, Brent Meeker wrote:
On 2/7/2017 10:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
This world. The one I can interact with.
Ah! You mean this dream. yes, it looks we can share part of it, and
interact with many users, like in second life. But to believe there
is a primary world behind this requires an act of faith, and
eventually, even if true in any sensible sense, if computationalism
is true, we cannot use that faith, we have to reduce its appearance
from a much small act of faith, like in the faith that x + 0 = x, x
+ successor(y) = successor(x + y), ...
It's hilarious that you think being awake is a dream
Not at all. With computationalism there is a crucial distinction
between being awake and being sleepy/dreaming. When you dream, or when
you are in a normal simulation (made by our descendent or something),
we have only one computation below the substitution level. When you
are awake, you have an infinity of computations below your
substitution level. That is why the apperaning of quantumness is a
strong evidence that we are awake indeed. We are not in one dream, but
in an infiniy of them. This is already explained at the step seven.
and an hypotheis based on evidence is faith.
Yes, you need faith in some reality to interpret evidences as being
evidences on something. You might just confuse faith with "blind
faith", which is nothing different from an act of obedience to some
pseudo-authority.
I think you're stuck in 1984.
?
I once noted that 10^120 + 1 = 10^120.
?
Bruno
Brent
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