Yeah, the idea that Dark energy is something we know today, more than 17 years
ago, doesn't seem accurate. We have has several astronomical surveys that
indicate a range of things, and nothing for certain. One survey has indicated
that because the universe is now guesstimated to have 10-20 times more
galaxies, then estimated 25 years ago, this would wipe out dark matter as a
source of mass. Normal matter in the form of a galaxy would thus, exclude the
need to postulate, an unknown dark source. Or, dark matter and energy could
exist, but as what? Axions? Some flavor of Higgs? I am thinking that until we
get off-planet in a big way, with space-borne radio telescopes, LIGO's, and
Neutrino tasters, we will be always shut away from the facts about what the
dark is??
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From: Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 18, 2017 7:04 pm
Subject: Re: From Atheism to Islam
On 2/18/2017 3:14 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net>
wrote:
>
he
[Einstein]
didn't notice that it was an unstable
equilibrium - a very elementary mistake.
I would humbly submit that when trying to figure out
what 4-dimensional non-Euclidean
Tensor calculus
is telling you about physics
nothing
is very elementary, especially not in 1917.
>
But the holographic principle can yield a value close
the the observed.
How close? In science if your theory predicts something that
differs from the observed value by a factor of 2 that's
generally considered to be pretty damn bad, and we're talking
about 10^120. They may have come up with something closer than
10^ 120, but close? I don't think so;at least not unless
they worked backward and invented a 120 digit number
and inserted it ad hoc into the theory so things come out
right.
It's not a matter of working backward; it's discarding the idea that
quantum fields zero-point energy fills volumes of space. From Hsu's paper;
Note that Lambda_qm is the value that has been calculated as off by a
factor of 1e120. Lambda_0 is a purely geometrical term - Einstein's
constant of integration. The current estimate is 1e-12 eV^4. So Hsu is off
by two orders of magnitude on the negative energy density.
Brent
But that would be cheating because if you can't get more out
of a theory than you put in it has no use, and a 120 digit
number is a lot to put in. I don't think we're going to have a
good explanation for Dark Energy anytime soon, but I hope I'm
wrong.
>
Sean Carroll has considered this in his review article
https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0004075v2
That article is 17 years old, and Dark Energy is as big a
mystery now as it was then.
John K Clark
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