John,
You are not discussing, and as long as you avoid the explanations,
there will be no progress on this. Study what you criticize before
please. Science is not politics, you can't invoke numbers of
believers, nor invoke your favorite "glass of beer".
Bruno
On 02 Mar 2017, at 20:27, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>
wrote:
>> Arithmetical truth is not a being (superhuman or
otherwise),
> Not a being?
That is correct the multiplication table is not a being, and this
must be the only place in the world where such a bland statement is
considered controversial.
> > arithmetical truth is not a spirit
> Depends what you mean by spirit
And that depends on what you mean by "mean".
>>You have no evidence that mathematics is more fundamental
than physics. None,
> I have better: a proof that if we are machine, then physics is a
modality on the arithmetical truth.
Like hell you have!
>> What is indispensable is that anything that deserves the
label "God" must be a intelligent conscious omniscient omnipotent
BEING
> Then all intellectual christians have stopped to believe in
God after St-Thomas,
If so then a very important question must be asked, how
many "intellectual Christians" are on planet Earth today?
Five? Six?
> who explained that omniscient and omnipotent are contradictory
Obviously it's contradictory, but that doesn't mean there
are not billions of people who passionately believe it nevertheless.
I never said Theology was logical or anywhere close to it.
> You can define God by the fundamental reality
That's true, you can try to get people to change the meaning of a
word, but doing so would not be a exercise in philosophy or even
theology, it would just be a exercise in vocabulary. And the only
reason for doing so would be if you were too cowardly to say "I
don't believe in God". So now that "God" just means "stuff" you
can proudly say "I believe in God" even if all you mean is "I
believe in stuff". It all seems like a pretty stupid word game to me.
John K Clark
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